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Sung won Lim's avatar

Thank you for both entertaining and thought provoking writing as always. I've been reading your posts via email but some of the stuff here stirred up some old memories with me, so I thought I'd leave a comment here.

I work minimum wage warehouse & manual labor jobs while running a sequencing lab focusing on microbial evolution - and have been lucky enough to discover a few things, enough to write some research papers and present at academic conferences.

I've been at this for about 17 years now - and had the mis/fortune of getting involved with diybio, biohackerspaces and iGEM since the very early days (Sung from NYC- we met a few times, I even got copies of your books!).

As someone more familiar with 'punk side of things, I have to say venues like SBB, or specifically its underlying current to constantly co-opt and associate itself to some sort of cultural moment to be a bit of a joke. It's a trades show. Like association of condo salespeople at Grand Rapids, except with huge egos on parts of the leadership. At least condo salespeople have the decency to not paint themselves up as some renaissance men who deserves to be held on a pedestal on topics of education, arts, politics, literal future of humanity and etc etc.

Now - this is an incendiary statement and some would be fully justified in their disagreement. And I'm sure some great people who do have insights on those topics end up attending these conferences too (such as yourself).

What I want to draw attention to is the danger of co-opting 'punk for sake of the establishment, since it essentially de-fangs legitimate criticism against the status quo.

Here's what I had to see in the last few years - a nice kid with some skill in yeast engineering technique got chewed up by a garbage truck uptake mechanism while working to pay the bills. A hard working evolutionary biology student from a city university system gave up her study and got into food delivery - a nutso spat on her for being late on a rainy day. I can sit here and write up a laundry list of horror stories all night.

We actively punish people from not-middle/upper middle class and not-elite institutions for the transgression of loving biology, or studying life for its own sake. And against that backdrop, the bizarre counterculture attitude of people in a bubble who never worked retail in their lives purporting to represent some new age for humanity is simply shallow and soulless. The great entrepreneur movement might as well be a welfare program for graduates of elite institutions, again shrouded in some shallow cover of 'culture' and 'punk'.

Anyways, pardon the rant! I had to get this one off my chest.

p.s. regarding George Church, he's old enough to know what eugenics is and what sort of harm it could pose - and he made his call. At the very least the man is tasteless.

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I hope you enjoy SynBioBeta - the early days were really wild, but things have gotten increasingly corporate over the years (less interesting?). But, recent chaos / funding downturn / "trough of disillusionment" might make for a more interesting show. I think the biotech frontier is probably somewhere else now: biohackers doing lab experiments in their bedroom or scientists like Mike Levin at Tufts. I have to work very hard at not being a "hater" - keeping a beginner's mind and an openness to the strange. This includes tolerance of mistakes or moral grey areas (eg George Church). Hopefully you'll keep your eyes open, keep dreaming, and keep writing about how biotech may change humanity's future from within and without.

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