This is sadly not surprising. I had concluded much of this myself, but here it is laid out in the starkest terms. I do not think we can afford to overlook the import if this article. Please read it.
Finally, someone else is pointing this out, too! (It has appeared obvious to me from almost the start of Vance’s couchfuckery of the scene.) it’s clear that Vance isn’t running for VP, but the presidency. Trump will quickly die in office, be killed or be Amendment 25’d.
It is no accident that these guys admire Victor Orban, as Hungary is already in “soft fascism”. Curtis Yarvin is scary. He had become a bit of a figure in the Dimes Square scene, a year ago or so. I don’t think that Scott McNealy really belongs in the list. He is just a libertarian capitalist, only supporting Trump for preservation from China.
Half of this scenario looks like “A Handmaid’s Tale”, but it’s hard to see how Christian nationalism will blend with atheistic extropianism. I just REALLY hope you are over reacting, fearful that you are not.
I liked McNealy as head of Sun during most of my almost 9 years there. I had two half-hour one-on-one meetings with him in his office (his 'open door' policy that any employee could get on his calendar), and another time, after I had been at Sun for about 7 years, he liked some of my work & got me invited to the Council of the Wise or whatever it was, the top mucky mucks. I made a short presentation & he chartered me to do a project that I hadn't even asked about & I got a big budget to do it, just like that. He was't the kind of guy I would like to have a proverbial beer with -- a Stanford frat-boy who came from wealth, etc -- but I liked him well enough as a human being. He was OK.
I agree that he's no Peter Thiel or Elon Musk -- or to be more exact, I am aware of no evidence that he is or isn't now one of them. But I think I'll leave his name in my essay anyway because, he's making common cause with the Silcon Valley technofascists, and, yknow, fuck those megarich Silicon Valley assholes willing to destroy the country just so they can make ever more money. Fuck 'em.
The last interaction I had with Scott was about 10 years ago on Twitter. He was ranting, as he did from time to time, about the evils of labor unions. I Replied, "It wasn't labor unions that destroyed Sun, lol. We workers weren't unionized. You guys did that all by yourselves." (Or words to that effect.) I don't think he blocked me, (he might have? I don't remember) but he & I never had any interaction after that.
Thiel and many of the tech/private equity/venture capital people are 'on the spectrum' whatever that means though it's distinctive once you've encountered it and usually incomprehensible when you haven't because there's something inhuman about it. They aren't eccentric because they're intelligent they're intelligent because they're eccentric. Socially, they're out of their minds, and most notably marked by a complete lack of empathy.
At it's root 'autism' refers to isolation, detachment, and the sense of being a spectator. This is isn't a behavioral thing, subject to modification through socialization, it's a brain thing. They manage to function socially to the extent they do mostly by imitation. Mimesis. But the real thing, the ability to live 'in the world' among their fellow, irreducibly social beings, isn't there. The abstract world is real to them. Humanity, the rest of it, is an abstraction.
We are an abstraction, pieces in chess or parts in a video game. Getting millions of people killed means nothing. Note that Musk apparently conquered some video game and the experts, other gamers, can't figure out how. It should have taken more time than he can possibly have. This isn't a measure of his brilliance but of his sociopathic potential. These are the last people in the world you want running things. All of it relates to Puritanism. Utopianism.
Puritanism played out in such a way that wealth got associated with moral excellence independently of anything. The common ground between techies and evangelicals is unbelievable fatalism. Techies think their rise and wealth and 'victory' was inevitable because they're simply better, an 'elect' like in Calvinism. Social Darwinism meets God-determined destiny. So they're all completely, sociopathically nuts. Their thinking has no meaning.
It's cut off from reality. God, biblically, as the Logos, is the source of meaning. Literalism, its enemy. It's why the Bible's most significant passages, thematically and structurally, are the parables. Stories count because we live, irreducibly, in stories. Similarly, constitutional 'originalism' is a scam. A power move. Trying to seize the high ground because they're primally, existentially fearful. The fear, like Thiel's brain problems, is essentially a given.
An unconquerable thing. So, it's unbelievably insane to have any of these people running anything, but they seem to periodically end up in charge BECAUSE THEY'RE NUTS. They keep fighting because in their detached, unreal, abstract world it makes sense. So we're living, right now, inside something like Dungeons and Dragons. Which I know nothing about but I assume we're the dragons. Because you have to have dragons. We're in an RPG.
I’m not going to diagnose any of these people you mention as ‘autistic’ or make any generalizations about people who have autism. But I do agree that people like Thiel & Musk (and many of the oligarchs & broligarchs) have little, if any capacity for empathy, or even baseline human interaction skills. As to what that might have to do with ‘intelligence, consider Trump — who is not intelligent at all, except in his intuitive sense of how to harvest peoples’ most base, anti-social instincts.
I also agree with your drawing a parallel between what we see from these people and Puritanism/Calvinism'; a belief that God manisfests ‘the Elect.’ The same is true for virtually all Republican/Trumpist politicians, judges & functionaries, and for all Evangelicals/Christian Nationalists.
Really interesting interview with Andreessen in the NYT. He sounds like a totally decent, smart and open-minded guy but an insane techno-optimist, given my belief that the jury is in and is much more mixed than the main beneficiaries of the tech explosion have wanted to admit. But there's tech and there's tech. Most of it I absolutely love, not having done social media to any extent. But the bubble. My God the guy is in a bubble, understandably with his trajectory. He seems like a listener, even, but something is not getting through.
I knew/know some of the guys who got the whole graphics thing going and they're some of the nicest, most responsible people I've ever met but there seems to be a loose correlation between being nuts and getting to the very top. Or, maybe it's something that happens once they get there. I don't know, but Thiel and his allies who are determined to seize power are completely out of their minds.
Exactly this: "Vance is smart, ambitious, and utterly without a moral center. This is exactly why Thiel et al chose him to be their inside man."
Trump was essentially the same but has become less useful with his declining cognition plus all the felony convictions, etc. He's too compromised mentally and legally to be fully useful. Vance is young, corrupt and champing at the bit to do Thiel's bidding. He probably imagines he can outwit Thiel if he ever needs to. He can't.
Thank you! I am certain this was even harder to write than it was to read. Deep inside I have known the gist of this threat for some time now. You have attached new names to the execution of it, but the players and outcomes are the same ones my “hunter” brain (as Thom Hartmann would call it) has been alerting me to for some time now. The lack of reaction in public spaces when Johnson replaced McCarthy, Musk bought Xitter with help from the Saudis & Vance was picked for VP all had the hairs on the back of my neck standing straight up. I screamed into the void. I hope Kamala & Tim are the answer to that primordial scream. I am a nobody from nowhere so why is it that I can see the pieces moving on the chessboard that you see, but not all others do?
It is imperative that we win this election with overwhelming numbers AND a trifecta. Then we must immediately act with all due speed to protect ourselves from the next wave of attack. They may lose, but they will not stop trying. We must force all three pillars of our democracy to change in order to nip this now. We have four years to get heavy duty guardrails in place via reforms, including a regulatory crackdown on social media and other communication sources that spew relentless disinformation. Lies are not free speech.
Scary times, for sure. I just try to take courage from others who have faced similar dangers in times past. I believe that Harris & Walz will win this election if we all do our best to get out the good word. It’s a fine balance — we must focus on the great things we can expect from a Harris presidency but still be very clear about the extreme dangers of a Trump win.
I agree. I am optimistic and doing the work. I am finishing up my 200 postcards for Swing States this week and am signed up to work as a Provisional Ballot Judge in OH on Election Day.
"The lack of reaction in public spaces when Johnson replaced McCarthy, Musk bought Xitter with help from the Saudis & Vance was picked for VP all had the hairs on the back of my neck standing straight up."
I agree with almost all you say and have said much of it myself (with less supporting evidence) in previous posts.
Two points:
Firstly, I used to say Trump would be out very quickly and Vance would take over, and it may still happen once Trump if perceived as more liability than asset, but I think Trump will keep up the assaults for a while yet, perhaps even into 2026, because Vance is nowhere near as effective as a public speaker - he's boring and a character-free zone! I see Vance as the Project Manager for Project 2025 (and the rest of that agenda they didn't dare to publish). It may even be the next 'public face' President is someone else entirely.
Secondly, when it is time for Trump to go, he'll be assassinated, and it'll be blamed on some lifelong Democratic voter or 'liberal terrorist', probably to justify a round up of more politicians, journalists and critics. Trump will then become a martyr, a hero of the Republic, and there will be a statue raised to him on the White House lawn! He will be the Lenin or Stalin of America's future mythology.
Otherwise I'm with you on your assessment, and particularly that Dems need to wake up, stop talking about winning the next non-existent elections and work out some king of genuine action strategy. More talking is NOT going to change anything.
I guess we're going to have to see what we shall see. I've been heartened a bit by incompetence an infighting on the Republican side, but even more disheartened the flabby response from our so-called opposition party, with people like Chuck Schumer, for one example, who seem to feel that this is just another day at the beach. A rainy day, sure, but not the tsunami cross-fire hurricane that it is.
Everyone seems to be shuffling around at the moment, waiting for the 20th. The Dems are just putting all the stuff away and cleaning up so the place looks tidy, and all the Reps are all trying to look and sound relevant in the hope of being picked for..... well, anything really!
And everyone is looking at the sky every 5 minutes for signs and portents of the mayhem that might be unleashed. As am I.
One important truth about America at the moment is the fervor for states rights and the arguably secessionist or disunionist impulses in our history. More likely than a fascist takeover under a Vance/Thiel administration would be a period of the separation of states from DC. Richard Kreitner’s Break It Up is a good source for this history. In order to establish some national policies around abortion and more, they’d have to ally a variety pack of military and police organizations — along with the alphabet soup of surveillance and federal policing offices — to put all this in play. I don’t see the 50 states all suddenly agreeing to go along with someone as obviously out of touch as Vance. Hitler and his group got everyone to do jumping jacks, the folks at the Trump rallies prefer lawn chairs.
Well, those are all important considerations. All I say with any confidence is that if Trump is elected, Vance will be President before the end of 2025 and he will be more ruthless and efficient and dangerous than Trump. What would that lead to? How much success might he have? What would happen in the ranks of the Armed Forces if he started giving orders that were unconstitutional? There my crystal ball is extremely murky.
I do agree with your premise that Trump is terminally addled and the Vance is central casting for a techno authoritarian power move. And I enjoy what you are putting together. Seems like the tech titans (modern day Roman gods I think they see themselves) haven’t nearly reached the apex of what they’d like to do with their ever increasing powers. AI being the latest superpower these guys want to wield. But I see a lot of potential infighting with these Big Picture Uber alles dreams. Note the strange and likely unrealistic tech city a bunch of them are trying to build in Solano County which is likely to get bogged down in various political and regulatory issues. Move fast and break things works great in cyberspace (and not so great in politics) but in the non-virtual world you gotta be willing to break some actual bones and I don’t think they have the nerve. Actual violence is not in their wheelhouse. They’re just now figuring out how to get the homeless drug addicts out from underfoot. If Trump wins, look for an increase in entropy, not Hail, Caesar.
They’ve all developed god complexes! Elon for one has made it very clear he despises the safety rules imposed by NASA. His ticket is for deregulation. Rules are for fools. Ironically, another famous entrepreneur had the same arrogance and built something called the Titan submersible. We all know what happened..
Whoah! Thanks for writing down in clear text what my gut has been trying to tell me. Thiel, Musk et al have become "too big to fail" unfortunately. Hopefully SECand DOJ has something up their sleeve re Musk, must be a reason he's been going increasingly loopy lately.
Some think Vance is the heir apparent and will watch follow Trump. I am sure Vance realizes that his personality is not marketable. It’s the 25th Amendment or being anointed. Otherwise he is out of the game and Peter Thiel will lose his major investment.
We should also consider how highly the tech bros think of themselves. Elon wants to populate Mars (perhaps by himself?), and he is putting chips in people’s brains. This is not science fiction, this is now. Elon knows how to spot something revolutionary and the how to market it. These fellows were allowed to accumulate too much wealth—there is such a thing when it comes to national security—and then have been allowed to deploy systems that only the government should have had. I think in particular of Starlink.
I hope they don’t really believe Trump can placate Putin. Trump is a fool with regard to flatterers. Putin poses a clear and present danger to this country militarily. First Ukraine, then the Baltics, Poland , Hungary and onward. Count on it.
I think your nightmare vision is entirely possible. It began dawning on me during Covid that we are all trapped in the cage of technology constructed by these fascist techbros. It is almost impossible to “live” without it now.
To echo some of the other comments many, many of us have arrived at the same conclusions as you. It’s incomprehensible to me that the legacy media are complicit in keeping the public so ignorant. If authoritarianism wins, it seems the NYT and the rest of the elite press won’t fight too hard to fall in line. They’re already doing it.
The left is also hilariously the party of childish “I know you are but what am I” playground insults.
Literally claiming that it is Trump and not the candidate that they voted for that has dementia, and that he is acting on behalf of a global Nazi/Fascist Cabal, when literally their Government colluded with Big Business, Big Tech, and Big Media to misconstrue, slander, and censor facts, ‘fortify’ the election, and subvert the democratic process to execute a coup on the sitting president to install their own puppet candidate. All while the global cabals like the WHO & WEF push for more top-down totalitarian government rule?
Speaking of cabals, how many of those folks do you think are in the Epstein client list? And if you’re truly in your heart of hearts being honest with yourself… you know that if it was a bunch of anti-corruption, anti-globalist, anti-big government types - and not the corrupt cast of characters that we all know are actually on there - that the list would have been “leaked” a long loooong time ago.
This is sadly not surprising. I had concluded much of this myself, but here it is laid out in the starkest terms. I do not think we can afford to overlook the import if this article. Please read it.
Finally, someone else is pointing this out, too! (It has appeared obvious to me from almost the start of Vance’s couchfuckery of the scene.) it’s clear that Vance isn’t running for VP, but the presidency. Trump will quickly die in office, be killed or be Amendment 25’d.
It is no accident that these guys admire Victor Orban, as Hungary is already in “soft fascism”. Curtis Yarvin is scary. He had become a bit of a figure in the Dimes Square scene, a year ago or so. I don’t think that Scott McNealy really belongs in the list. He is just a libertarian capitalist, only supporting Trump for preservation from China.
Half of this scenario looks like “A Handmaid’s Tale”, but it’s hard to see how Christian nationalism will blend with atheistic extropianism. I just REALLY hope you are over reacting, fearful that you are not.
I liked McNealy as head of Sun during most of my almost 9 years there. I had two half-hour one-on-one meetings with him in his office (his 'open door' policy that any employee could get on his calendar), and another time, after I had been at Sun for about 7 years, he liked some of my work & got me invited to the Council of the Wise or whatever it was, the top mucky mucks. I made a short presentation & he chartered me to do a project that I hadn't even asked about & I got a big budget to do it, just like that. He was't the kind of guy I would like to have a proverbial beer with -- a Stanford frat-boy who came from wealth, etc -- but I liked him well enough as a human being. He was OK.
I agree that he's no Peter Thiel or Elon Musk -- or to be more exact, I am aware of no evidence that he is or isn't now one of them. But I think I'll leave his name in my essay anyway because, he's making common cause with the Silcon Valley technofascists, and, yknow, fuck those megarich Silicon Valley assholes willing to destroy the country just so they can make ever more money. Fuck 'em.
The last interaction I had with Scott was about 10 years ago on Twitter. He was ranting, as he did from time to time, about the evils of labor unions. I Replied, "It wasn't labor unions that destroyed Sun, lol. We workers weren't unionized. You guys did that all by yourselves." (Or words to that effect.) I don't think he blocked me, (he might have? I don't remember) but he & I never had any interaction after that.
Wrote this somewhere else and pasting it in ...
Thiel and many of the tech/private equity/venture capital people are 'on the spectrum' whatever that means though it's distinctive once you've encountered it and usually incomprehensible when you haven't because there's something inhuman about it. They aren't eccentric because they're intelligent they're intelligent because they're eccentric. Socially, they're out of their minds, and most notably marked by a complete lack of empathy.
At it's root 'autism' refers to isolation, detachment, and the sense of being a spectator. This is isn't a behavioral thing, subject to modification through socialization, it's a brain thing. They manage to function socially to the extent they do mostly by imitation. Mimesis. But the real thing, the ability to live 'in the world' among their fellow, irreducibly social beings, isn't there. The abstract world is real to them. Humanity, the rest of it, is an abstraction.
We are an abstraction, pieces in chess or parts in a video game. Getting millions of people killed means nothing. Note that Musk apparently conquered some video game and the experts, other gamers, can't figure out how. It should have taken more time than he can possibly have. This isn't a measure of his brilliance but of his sociopathic potential. These are the last people in the world you want running things. All of it relates to Puritanism. Utopianism.
Puritanism played out in such a way that wealth got associated with moral excellence independently of anything. The common ground between techies and evangelicals is unbelievable fatalism. Techies think their rise and wealth and 'victory' was inevitable because they're simply better, an 'elect' like in Calvinism. Social Darwinism meets God-determined destiny. So they're all completely, sociopathically nuts. Their thinking has no meaning.
It's cut off from reality. God, biblically, as the Logos, is the source of meaning. Literalism, its enemy. It's why the Bible's most significant passages, thematically and structurally, are the parables. Stories count because we live, irreducibly, in stories. Similarly, constitutional 'originalism' is a scam. A power move. Trying to seize the high ground because they're primally, existentially fearful. The fear, like Thiel's brain problems, is essentially a given.
An unconquerable thing. So, it's unbelievably insane to have any of these people running anything, but they seem to periodically end up in charge BECAUSE THEY'RE NUTS. They keep fighting because in their detached, unreal, abstract world it makes sense. So we're living, right now, inside something like Dungeons and Dragons. Which I know nothing about but I assume we're the dragons. Because you have to have dragons. We're in an RPG.
And, welcome to unreality.
I’m not going to diagnose any of these people you mention as ‘autistic’ or make any generalizations about people who have autism. But I do agree that people like Thiel & Musk (and many of the oligarchs & broligarchs) have little, if any capacity for empathy, or even baseline human interaction skills. As to what that might have to do with ‘intelligence, consider Trump — who is not intelligent at all, except in his intuitive sense of how to harvest peoples’ most base, anti-social instincts.
I also agree with your drawing a parallel between what we see from these people and Puritanism/Calvinism'; a belief that God manisfests ‘the Elect.’ The same is true for virtually all Republican/Trumpist politicians, judges & functionaries, and for all Evangelicals/Christian Nationalists.
Really interesting interview with Andreessen in the NYT. He sounds like a totally decent, smart and open-minded guy but an insane techno-optimist, given my belief that the jury is in and is much more mixed than the main beneficiaries of the tech explosion have wanted to admit. But there's tech and there's tech. Most of it I absolutely love, not having done social media to any extent. But the bubble. My God the guy is in a bubble, understandably with his trajectory. He seems like a listener, even, but something is not getting through.
I knew/know some of the guys who got the whole graphics thing going and they're some of the nicest, most responsible people I've ever met but there seems to be a loose correlation between being nuts and getting to the very top. Or, maybe it's something that happens once they get there. I don't know, but Thiel and his allies who are determined to seize power are completely out of their minds.
"To them, Trump’s accelerating descent into dementia is a godsend."
Positively providential.
Exactly this: "Vance is smart, ambitious, and utterly without a moral center. This is exactly why Thiel et al chose him to be their inside man."
Trump was essentially the same but has become less useful with his declining cognition plus all the felony convictions, etc. He's too compromised mentally and legally to be fully useful. Vance is young, corrupt and champing at the bit to do Thiel's bidding. He probably imagines he can outwit Thiel if he ever needs to. He can't.
I agree about Vance being no match for Thiel. Don't fuck around with Nosferatu unless you're a Buffy-certified vampire-killer.
Thank you! I am certain this was even harder to write than it was to read. Deep inside I have known the gist of this threat for some time now. You have attached new names to the execution of it, but the players and outcomes are the same ones my “hunter” brain (as Thom Hartmann would call it) has been alerting me to for some time now. The lack of reaction in public spaces when Johnson replaced McCarthy, Musk bought Xitter with help from the Saudis & Vance was picked for VP all had the hairs on the back of my neck standing straight up. I screamed into the void. I hope Kamala & Tim are the answer to that primordial scream. I am a nobody from nowhere so why is it that I can see the pieces moving on the chessboard that you see, but not all others do?
It is imperative that we win this election with overwhelming numbers AND a trifecta. Then we must immediately act with all due speed to protect ourselves from the next wave of attack. They may lose, but they will not stop trying. We must force all three pillars of our democracy to change in order to nip this now. We have four years to get heavy duty guardrails in place via reforms, including a regulatory crackdown on social media and other communication sources that spew relentless disinformation. Lies are not free speech.
Scary times, for sure. I just try to take courage from others who have faced similar dangers in times past. I believe that Harris & Walz will win this election if we all do our best to get out the good word. It’s a fine balance — we must focus on the great things we can expect from a Harris presidency but still be very clear about the extreme dangers of a Trump win.
I agree. I am optimistic and doing the work. I am finishing up my 200 postcards for Swing States this week and am signed up to work as a Provisional Ballot Judge in OH on Election Day.
Thank you.
Yes!
"The lack of reaction in public spaces when Johnson replaced McCarthy, Musk bought Xitter with help from the Saudis & Vance was picked for VP all had the hairs on the back of my neck standing straight up."
Another nobody from nowhere here who understands what’s going on too. What a world.
I agree with almost all you say and have said much of it myself (with less supporting evidence) in previous posts.
Two points:
Firstly, I used to say Trump would be out very quickly and Vance would take over, and it may still happen once Trump if perceived as more liability than asset, but I think Trump will keep up the assaults for a while yet, perhaps even into 2026, because Vance is nowhere near as effective as a public speaker - he's boring and a character-free zone! I see Vance as the Project Manager for Project 2025 (and the rest of that agenda they didn't dare to publish). It may even be the next 'public face' President is someone else entirely.
Secondly, when it is time for Trump to go, he'll be assassinated, and it'll be blamed on some lifelong Democratic voter or 'liberal terrorist', probably to justify a round up of more politicians, journalists and critics. Trump will then become a martyr, a hero of the Republic, and there will be a statue raised to him on the White House lawn! He will be the Lenin or Stalin of America's future mythology.
Otherwise I'm with you on your assessment, and particularly that Dems need to wake up, stop talking about winning the next non-existent elections and work out some king of genuine action strategy. More talking is NOT going to change anything.
I guess we're going to have to see what we shall see. I've been heartened a bit by incompetence an infighting on the Republican side, but even more disheartened the flabby response from our so-called opposition party, with people like Chuck Schumer, for one example, who seem to feel that this is just another day at the beach. A rainy day, sure, but not the tsunami cross-fire hurricane that it is.
Everyone seems to be shuffling around at the moment, waiting for the 20th. The Dems are just putting all the stuff away and cleaning up so the place looks tidy, and all the Reps are all trying to look and sound relevant in the hope of being picked for..... well, anything really!
And everyone is looking at the sky every 5 minutes for signs and portents of the mayhem that might be unleashed. As am I.
You might find this one of interest: https://open.substack.com/pub/johnsundman/p/samizdat-dreaming-part-one?r=38b5x&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
One important truth about America at the moment is the fervor for states rights and the arguably secessionist or disunionist impulses in our history. More likely than a fascist takeover under a Vance/Thiel administration would be a period of the separation of states from DC. Richard Kreitner’s Break It Up is a good source for this history. In order to establish some national policies around abortion and more, they’d have to ally a variety pack of military and police organizations — along with the alphabet soup of surveillance and federal policing offices — to put all this in play. I don’t see the 50 states all suddenly agreeing to go along with someone as obviously out of touch as Vance. Hitler and his group got everyone to do jumping jacks, the folks at the Trump rallies prefer lawn chairs.
Well, those are all important considerations. All I say with any confidence is that if Trump is elected, Vance will be President before the end of 2025 and he will be more ruthless and efficient and dangerous than Trump. What would that lead to? How much success might he have? What would happen in the ranks of the Armed Forces if he started giving orders that were unconstitutional? There my crystal ball is extremely murky.
I do agree with your premise that Trump is terminally addled and the Vance is central casting for a techno authoritarian power move. And I enjoy what you are putting together. Seems like the tech titans (modern day Roman gods I think they see themselves) haven’t nearly reached the apex of what they’d like to do with their ever increasing powers. AI being the latest superpower these guys want to wield. But I see a lot of potential infighting with these Big Picture Uber alles dreams. Note the strange and likely unrealistic tech city a bunch of them are trying to build in Solano County which is likely to get bogged down in various political and regulatory issues. Move fast and break things works great in cyberspace (and not so great in politics) but in the non-virtual world you gotta be willing to break some actual bones and I don’t think they have the nerve. Actual violence is not in their wheelhouse. They’re just now figuring out how to get the homeless drug addicts out from underfoot. If Trump wins, look for an increase in entropy, not Hail, Caesar.
They’ve all developed god complexes! Elon for one has made it very clear he despises the safety rules imposed by NASA. His ticket is for deregulation. Rules are for fools. Ironically, another famous entrepreneur had the same arrogance and built something called the Titan submersible. We all know what happened..
Whoah! Thanks for writing down in clear text what my gut has been trying to tell me. Thiel, Musk et al have become "too big to fail" unfortunately. Hopefully SECand DOJ has something up their sleeve re Musk, must be a reason he's been going increasingly loopy lately.
Some think Vance is the heir apparent and will watch follow Trump. I am sure Vance realizes that his personality is not marketable. It’s the 25th Amendment or being anointed. Otherwise he is out of the game and Peter Thiel will lose his major investment.
We should also consider how highly the tech bros think of themselves. Elon wants to populate Mars (perhaps by himself?), and he is putting chips in people’s brains. This is not science fiction, this is now. Elon knows how to spot something revolutionary and the how to market it. These fellows were allowed to accumulate too much wealth—there is such a thing when it comes to national security—and then have been allowed to deploy systems that only the government should have had. I think in particular of Starlink.
I hope they don’t really believe Trump can placate Putin. Trump is a fool with regard to flatterers. Putin poses a clear and present danger to this country militarily. First Ukraine, then the Baltics, Poland , Hungary and onward. Count on it.
I think your nightmare vision is entirely possible. It began dawning on me during Covid that we are all trapped in the cage of technology constructed by these fascist techbros. It is almost impossible to “live” without it now.
Bleak AS and probably true.
Yeah, this guy gets it. This is happening g now.
Holy mother of based. If only the scenario you laid out was true 🙏
Unfortunately, this world is too fragile for this timeline.
To echo some of the other comments many, many of us have arrived at the same conclusions as you. It’s incomprehensible to me that the legacy media are complicit in keeping the public so ignorant. If authoritarianism wins, it seems the NYT and the rest of the elite press won’t fight too hard to fall in line. They’re already doing it.
The left is also hilariously the party of childish “I know you are but what am I” playground insults.
Literally claiming that it is Trump and not the candidate that they voted for that has dementia, and that he is acting on behalf of a global Nazi/Fascist Cabal, when literally their Government colluded with Big Business, Big Tech, and Big Media to misconstrue, slander, and censor facts, ‘fortify’ the election, and subvert the democratic process to execute a coup on the sitting president to install their own puppet candidate. All while the global cabals like the WHO & WEF push for more top-down totalitarian government rule?
Speaking of cabals, how many of those folks do you think are in the Epstein client list? And if you’re truly in your heart of hearts being honest with yourself… you know that if it was a bunch of anti-corruption, anti-globalist, anti-big government types - and not the corrupt cast of characters that we all know are actually on there - that the list would have been “leaked” a long loooong time ago.